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Happy Plastic Paddy Day

America is fucking insane about "I once smelt Irish Whiskey so I'm Offically Irish" Day.

Just don't get me started... the first time someone pinches me on St Pads for not wearing Green is the day I get arrested for beating someone with a nice Orange traffic cone "because I'm English and it's symbolic."

Fuckers.

(previously posted as a comment in ms_violet's journal)

Comments

elsh
17th Mar, 2006 21:51 (UTC)
Your post is hurtful. My ancestors are Irish and so are many other people's here in America. Seems like you just have certain issues with Americans in general.

I didn't even remember it was St. Patrick's Day today, but if I felt like going all out and celebrating, who the fuck are you to tell me not to or that it's crazy or foolish? It doesn't affect or hurt you, so get off it already.

Similarly, are you Catholic? You celebrate St. Valentine's Day. Christmas is also a religious holiday. And you don't have to be Wiccan to celebrate Halloween.

My last name was formerly Connally and my own father's name is the same as this holiday's. Irish enough for me. People like feeling a connection with their past and I can trace my family back to Cork. But I don't even need these facts to enjoy a holiday if I wish to do so.

Sorry I sound upset, but I have seen you say similar things in the past and it's just rude. There's no reason for it. It doesn't harm you.
rinnywee
17th Mar, 2006 23:16 (UTC)
For me it's about celebrating my heritage, just as on the Swedish national holiday I celebrate that part of my ancestry, Australia Day is about the fact that I'm an Aussie as are my immediate and not too distant family, same goes for the rest of my ancestry.

Family history is very important for me, and I am bloody proud of every bit of it. If a day like St Paddy's Day makes me, and other people, think more about this kind of thing, or anything to do with Ireland, then imo it's only a good thing.

So what if they get drunk? If it gets people out, socialising and having a good time, then I don't see a problem with it and certainly wouldn't start pointing fingers.
elsh
17th Mar, 2006 23:22 (UTC)
Completely agreed!
rinnywee
18th Mar, 2006 10:26 (UTC)
And before that other person who blasted someone in the comments here replies to me:
1. Sod off and don't bother;
2. Greg and I debate shit like this all the time;
3. Sod off again.
a_muse_d
18th Mar, 2006 01:43 (UTC)
i have Irish ancestors, was raised Catholic, and am an American but i've NEVER agreed with and found it hurtful, disrespectful, and rude for the pinching that takes place on St. Patrick's Day if you don't wear green. so who the fuck are you to tell someone to "get off it" if they don't like having their personal space violated?

waaahh go cry me a fucking river for your own brand of rudeness and how i may have been hurtful toward you for replying.

otherwise, if people want to get piss-drunk on St. Patrick's Day or Cinco de Mayo, all the better for the bars and the wait/er/ess's tips at the end of the day. where i live people scream "whoo" as they stagger out of bars on a nightly basis. doesn't mean i wouldn't love to own a pellet gun.
elsh
18th Mar, 2006 03:06 (UTC)
Oh fuck off. Get your head out of your arse. I never said anything about pinching being right or nice.
a_muse_d
18th Mar, 2006 03:09 (UTC)
i fuck off just about every day, thank you.

i think you might just happen to have your head shoved up my ass. kindly find some other stinkhole to insert your nostrils in.

you might consider reading past the initial blanket statements at the beginning of an entry and not reacting off your hip holster, my wee little goblin.
elsh
18th Mar, 2006 03:13 (UTC)
Wow, you're so stupid I have nothing left to say to you. I don't need to waste my time. You could admit you were wrong with your comment because you went off on me for something I didn't even say, but you're clearly too retarded for that.
a_muse_d
18th Mar, 2006 03:22 (UTC)
fuck you back, bitch.
you missed the point of his post and took it to some level that not all of us agreed to, and ignored the basic points he made. but you are obviously so full of yourself that i'm just enjoying you being a retard in your own special way.
elsh
18th Mar, 2006 03:27 (UTC)
Re: fuck you back, bitch.
He made two separate statements, dumbass. The pinching not to do with the first. I'm done replying to you since you obviously don't have a brain and I won't read any replies.
. - a_muse_d - 18th Mar, 2006 03:34 (UTC) - Expand
darkcryst
18th Mar, 2006 10:45 (UTC)
Judged purely on LJ icons - you win this entire exchange for this icon. It's great. :)
darkcryst
18th Mar, 2006 10:22 (UTC)
Ok, I won't get into the whole ancestors thing, because that's another conversation. If you pay attention to my post you'll see I'm not refering to Irish people, or people who have a genuine (or at least some kind of sensible) reason to celebrate St Patricks Day.

I'm refering to the wierd over-the-top fakery that is associated with it, especially the wierd abusive tradition (kids pinching each other? Thats just bullying).

I'm not catholic no, I'm not any specific religeon. To say I celebrate Valentines Day is a bit of a stretch. I use it as an excuse to celebrate whoever I'm with, and I also lampoon it as "Bacontine Day" with Miriam, so there's not much reverence there. Christmas is also an "offical" holiday. It's sactioned by the government, and I don't celbrate the birth of a jewish carpenter on it. I give and recieve presents, and eat food - which is actually a spin off of pagan winter solstice celebrations that became entwined with "Christmas". Most of what people would term Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity really.

Same with Halloween. Why on earth would you have to be a Wiccan? Halloween is a Christian holiday, but again - all dressed up in its folk-pagan pagentry. It's about death and spooks. Nothing to do with specific religions.

Sorry if I upset you but a) The US does go a bit over the top about it, and also b) I'm English, and I was making a joke about that. If any group of people can historically say "fuck it, nothing to do with me" about Ireland/Irish Celebrations it's us.

No it doesn't harm me, but that's no reason not to post on LJ about an opinion, be it serious or not, on a subject is it? I won't shy away from posting my opinions on my LJ and neither should you ;) That said, I always try to rationalise things I post that are serious. I thought this was obviously a joke, and so didn't bother - sorry if that wasn't clear.
elsh
18th Mar, 2006 12:30 (UTC)
It's alright. I understand now. I'm sorry if I overreacted. It wasn't clear to me what you meant. But seriously, it's not just Americans that get excited about St Patrick's Day for no reason at all.

*hugs*

(oh and sorry about that argument, that person really pissed me off.)
darkcryst
18th Mar, 2006 12:34 (UTC)
No, it's not just Americans, but the excesses are most apparent (and celebrated) over there.

But yeah, no problems ;)
miriammiriam
19th Mar, 2006 00:38 (UTC)
OMG it's BACON day. NOT bacontine day. thats so rude and direspectful to my beliefs.